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I forgot to mention that I had fucked that semi-regular 6 times and made him cum hands-free the 1st, 3rd, & 6th times we met. I have recently fucked him 3 more times and made him cum again the first of those times; but, I did cum deep inside him every time but the second. The other guy whom I had already fucked 8 times has always been outdoors at a park; he always plays "safe," so he brings at least 3 Magnums with him just in case he & I meet again. That last time, it only took us about 10 minutes to determine what all the other guys we saw were there for, which is why we started fucking close enough for them to see and gather around us. I have not been able to go by that park since last October since it's now considerably out of my way. As a rule, all that matters is if the guy can take my cock so that I can fuck him good, preferably until I cum; whether they or I cum or not, all they want is more of my cock. But, with those two and a few others, I do try to make them cum hands-free shortly before I unload deep inside them.